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Despite data in Finkel report being out of date, with respect to recent big drops in cost of wind and solar, especially large commercial versions, the same with storage, all to not scare the horses of COALition right wing rump, Turnbull has dropped his trousers. Wasn’t major objective to get rid of “uncertainty”? How much will they spend on clean coal before even Phoney Tony has to admit there’s no way it can compete on basic price even before budgeting for any kind of emission offset.
Are gas peaking plants really needed to top up supply when solar or wind or both occasionally dip below demand? Previously, fossil fuel brigade always wanted gas peaker plants close to demand locations but suffered the wrath of NIMBYS every time they tried. The Finkel report encourages storage but fossil fuel bigots interpret that commercial wind and solar need to include storage, at remote site. They insist that power out of coal fired, steam powered plants is always perfect, disregarding that they can get seriously out of synch when big enough transients are felt back at source because they’re too slow to respond. Where dips and surges happen is out on the poles and wires, so doesn’t it make sense to put storage out there, especially with technology fast enough to repair 50Hz power on the fly, so that minor transients don’t become major.
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About ABC news items, biased against large scale renewable energy, in favour of fossils, corrections by people who definitely know what they’re talking about,
The Australian government’s chief scientific body says there is no apparent technical impediment to reaching 100 per cent renewables for the national electricity grid, and levels of up to 30 per cent renewable energy should be considered as just “trivial” in current energy systems…The CSIRO estimate was made in the Senate select committee into the “Resilience of electricity infrastructure in a warming world,” which is providing some fascinating insight that we will be reporting on (because mainstream media won’t).
Halelujah and thanks to Giles Parkinson, explaining that usual clowns were in apoplectic paroxysm(!!)
An interesting item which reminds of reference by Tim Flannery in book Atmosphere of Hope, about worries that emissions from Chernobyl, up in stratosphere then down again, would contaminate critters in food chain, from surface algae consumed by 4 levels of predators, so human food likely 10,000 times more concentrated. But it didn’t happen. Completely disappeared. Until deep ocean researchers brought primitive deep ocean life forms to the surface, finding Chernobyl contamination, after just over 3 months.
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Here’s a follow up from previous reference to item in Washington Post. It’s always good to hear audio as well as read print and it elaborates on why Emission Trading Scheme(s) are such a crock(except for benefit of merchant bankers). Republican Bob Inglis points out that we’re overdue for carbon reduction scheme to which all Nations can commit. With fee-and-dividend(abbreviated to carbon tax) it’s clean and easy to collect as fossil fuels come out of the ground. Dividend is then a simple credit, to you from the taxman, to compensate for higher energy cost until fossil fuel power goes the way of the Dodo. Main point is that the whole thing is “bankable” which means stimulating investment, rock solid confidence for renewables, lots of jobsongrowth, in a cash strapped world. Additionally, “cheap” imports, from countries with “competitive advantage” from high emission coal, can be hit with import duty to raise price to a level playing field… “This ticks every one of their boxes,” said Halstead. “It’s pro growth, pro competition, pro jobs, deregulatory, and it will help the working-class voters that Trump promised to help.”
Goyal’s target to cease thermal coal imports into India looks like a commercial certainty—imported coal-fired power generation is the risky, high cost option. Renewable energy capacity is targeted to increase fivefold to 258GW, and investment in other zero emission technologies (nuclear and large hydro) are targeted for a near doubling, to 94GW…Indian solar tariffs of US$54/MWh are likely to continue falling by 5 to 20 percent annually for the next decade…All this news from India bodes ill for international coal markets, and raises questions about an Australian project we have followed closely.
In IEEFA’s view the only way the Carmichael proposal can proceed is with a massive government subsidy to underwrite as much as AU$10 billion of project risk involved. While the North Australia Infrastructure Fund (NAIF) has been pushed to provide a subsidy of $AU 1 billion, the balance remains unfunded and is a key project risk.
Nationally, spending of more than $62 Billion on these new coal plants would lock in not just much higher energy prices but also achieve just a 5 per cent cut in national emissions by 2030. The Coalition’s push to build more coal – and its attacks on renewable energy targets – have already been discredited by the fossil fuel industry itself, apart from the coal miners looking for a market for their product. AGL repeated on Thursday that there’s no way it would build new coal plants, citing costs and commitment to emissions reduction; and the main fossil fuel generator lobby has also conceded that such plant would be impossible to finance..The Australian Industry Group has pointed out that such a plan would impose huge costs on consumers and manufacturers..Looks like they’ve really lost the plot this time.